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Bank of America appears to be taking steps to address its purported culture of overwork. Some junior bankers were warned by managers this week not to underreport their hours, and to alert human resources if pressured to do so, The Wall Street Journal reports. A similar sentiment was expressed at a manager meeting. Bank of America policy bars junior bankers from working more than 100 hours per week or on Saturdays, but a Journal investigation published earlier this week included claims from dozens of current and former employees who said that underreporting hours is common practice.
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In May, a 35-year-old Bank of America associate and father of two died of a blood clot. He had been working 100-hour weeks for about a month as his team finalized a $2 billion deal, colleagues said.Alexander Saeedy has spoken to more than three dozen people familiar with the working conditions at Bank of America since then.He found that superiors at the bank routinely instruct junior bankers to ignore policies meant to limit working hours. Some of those rules were put in place a decade ago after a bank intern in London died of a seizure after working several all-nighters in a row.Young bankers rarely push back. But many of them say consistent bouts of working more than 12-hour days at least six days a week is not only mentally grueling but hazardous to their health.The issue is pervasive across Wall Street. Do you think long hours are a rite of passage for a lucrative career path like banking or should banks be doing more to limit young workers' hours?
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Here's a thought: For example, when an employee logs into company systems, access automatically shuts down when approaching end of work week (ex.40 hrs). Your login credentials will not unlock until your next scheduled work week begins. If you sign up for a limited amount of overtime, it can not exceed for example, additional 8 hrs, whereby the system again shuts you out. Violators will be notified at all levels and company fined if found consistently abusing policy. Seems to attain work/life balance it must be mandated and/or penalties applied to companies' bottomline. Work/life balance should never be a reward/perk but the requirement for mental, physical and spiritual well being. Let's mirror the happiest countries on earth like Finland, Portugal, Norway as the new American model. Let's put America in the top spot as the happiest place on earth for all Americans.
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Renee Branson, M.A. Counseling Psychology
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Bank of America was found to be pressuring junior investment bankers to under report their hours as a way to circumvent the well-being initiatives they had in place. Not only does this continue to harm the well-being and performance of the bankers, it has an additional corrosive effect on company culture. ☢️ It signals to the workforce that the culture lacks integrity. Remember, integrity is when our behavior is congruent with our stated values. ☢️ It compounds stress. It forces individuals to act against their own self-interest and values by encouraging dishonestly. Living outside of one’s own integrity is a known stressor in and of itself. ☢️ It undermines trust—a key component of any relationship, even professional relationships. If a boss is asking me to be dishonest, what else are they being dishonest about?Poor mental well-being in the workplace impacts the individuals in the workplace AND it also negatively impacts a company’s performance and reputation. If I company isn’t truly on board with making a meaningful, positive impact on their work culture, it is better to just stop pretending. Then, at least, they are being congruent with their actual values of profit over people and viewing employees as expendable objects. Bankers could then make an informed decision about where they want to give their time and talent. https://lnkd.in/eJ-d2Vyu
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In May, a 35-year-old Bank of America associate and father of two died of a blood clot. He had been working 100-hour weeks for about a month as his team finalized a $2 billion deal, colleagues said.Alexander Saeedy has spoken to more than three dozen people familiar with the working conditions at Bank of America since then.He found that superiors at the bank routinely instruct junior bankers to ignore policies meant to limit working hours. Some of those rules were put in place a decade ago after a bank intern in London died of a seizure after working several all-nighters in a row.Young bankers rarely push back. But many of them say consistent bouts of working more than 12-hour days at least six days a week is not only mentally grueling but hazardous to their health.The issue is pervasive across Wall Street. Do you think long hours are a rite of passage for a lucrative career path like banking or should banks be doing more to limit young workers' hours?
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The culture of overwork is not unique to Wall Street or banking. The legal profession and medical profession have had this culture for decades. It’s a crazy way to work, but if you want to get a head in those professions. It’s tough on those in the professions and, I think, leads to less quality work. As a criminal defense attorney, I’ve had trials when I’ve had to put in 80+ hours in a week, but I had to find time later to give myself a break. It’s important to my mental health and to properly serve my clients. It’s unfortunate that this culture has spread so far in our working world.
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In May, a 35-year-old Bank of America associate and father of two died of a blood clot. He had been working 100-hour weeks for about a month as his team finalized a $2 billion deal, colleagues said.Alexander Saeedy has spoken to more than three dozen people familiar with the working conditions at Bank of America since then.He found that superiors at the bank routinely instruct junior bankers to ignore policies meant to limit working hours. Some of those rules were put in place a decade ago after a bank intern in London died of a seizure after working several all-nighters in a row.Young bankers rarely push back. But many of them say consistent bouts of working more than 12-hour days at least six days a week is not only mentally grueling but hazardous to their health.The issue is pervasive across Wall Street. Do you think long hours are a rite of passage for a lucrative career path like banking or should banks be doing more to limit young workers' hours?
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It should not be ignored that entrepreneurs have been working 12-15 hour days for decades, especially in retail. Elon Musk famously slept on the floor of his Tesla plant while going through its startup phase. My son owns a chain of retail stores in Canada which he is expanding & consistently survives on 4 hours sleep. It depends what drives up. Walk Street Invt Bankers are driven by $.
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Bank of America capped employees’ hours when an intern died after working multiple all-nighters in a row. Today, those policies are often ignored, leaving employees at the investment bank to work 15-to-16 hour days off the books for weeks a time.A recent death of a 35 year-old banker in May has prompted scrutiny of the bank’s work culture and reopened a debate over how much young employees on Wall Street should be worked in their first years on the job.Many current and former employees who spoke to me said that their bosses routinely asked them to lie about their hours and work more than the bank’s policies allowed. They said they didn’t want to speak out about how they were told to violate company policies because of their high pay, in an industry where entry level salaries can start as high as $200,000.Read more here:
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To me it's simple, if 200k is the price you get paid for potential early death, and money has utility only when alive, the payoff does not make sense. A smart person would reject this, I understand most of those who accept it are supposedly smart.
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An intern at Bank of America died after working multiple all-nighters in a row! When will this stop and organisations take accountability and do something about toxic work cultures?==============================Leaders/managers it’s YOUR responsibility to monitor the hours your people are working and not just what they put on the system, the hours they are actually working to get the job done, contract signed, or project over the line. ==============================Today, policies are often ignored, leaving employees at the investment bank to work 15-to-16 hour days off the books for weeks a time.The recent death of a 35 year-old banker in May has prompted scrutiny of the bank’s work culture and reopened a debate over how much young employees on Wall Street should be worked in their first years on the job.#WorkplaceWellbeing #WorkrelatedDeath #BankofAmerica
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In May, a 35-year-old Bank of America associate and father of two died of a blood clot. He had been working 100-hour weeks for about a month as his team finalized a $2 billion deal, colleagues said.Alexander Saeedy has spoken to more than three dozen people familiar with the working conditions at Bank of America since then.He found that superiors at the bank routinely instruct junior bankers to ignore policies meant to limit working hours. Some of those rules were put in place a decade ago after a bank intern in London died of a seizure after working several all-nighters in a row.Young bankers rarely push back. But many of them say consistent bouts of working more than 12-hour days at least six days a week is not only mentally grueling but hazardous to their health.The issue is pervasive across Wall Street. Do you think long hours are a rite of passage for a lucrative career path like banking or should banks be doing more to limit young workers' hours?
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“Our Health is Our Most Valuable Wealth”!! Employers need to prioritize their employees health… no flat lines for their bottom lines. Stressful jobs such as banking should be balanced with off-time activities. Employees should be encouraged & supported to practice appropriate self-care both in & away from the workplace. NO EXCEPTIONS!!
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Exclusive: Bank of America is urging young bankers to accurately report the hours they work after an investigation by WSJ found bankers are often pressured to ignore rules meant to prevent dangerous overwork.
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The way it might be analysed: If the number of hours are "too high" then their productivity (output per time unit) is too low, so they need to learn to work smarter and harder in the standard hours per day - that can be achieved by training, self-management and performance management. Problem solved.
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Exclusive: Bank of America is urging young bankers to accurately report the hours they work after an investigation by WSJ found bankers are often pressured to ignore rules meant to prevent dangerous overwork.
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Will BoA also have a serious talk with whoever was doing the "pressured to ignore rules", possibly including progressive disciplinary action if they don't acknowledge the risk of lawsuit(s) the Company is guaranteed to lose?
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Bank of America capped employees’ hours when an intern died after working multiple all-nighters in a row. Today, those policies are often ignored, leaving employees at the investment bank to work 15-to-16 hour days off the books for weeks a time.A recent death of a 35 year-old banker in May has prompted scrutiny of the bank’s work culture and reopened a debate over how much young employees on Wall Street should be worked in their first years on the job.Many current and former employees who spoke to me said that their bosses routinely asked them to lie about their hours and work more than the bank’s policies allowed. They said they didn’t want to speak out about how they were told to violate company policies because of their high pay, in an industry where entry level salaries can start as high as $200,000.Read more here:
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TBH given the insanity of start ups, surprised this doesn’t happen more often in that world, too, where there are 0 policies, no boundaries, no real oversight, and really unhealthy (and I mean that both literally and figuratively) culture.
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